1 Corinthians 11:16
16But if one is inclined to be contentious, we have no other practice, nor have the churches of God.
Paul is saying that this command and practice is to be obeyed in all the churches, Paul will not argue the issue, it a firm command. Must this command must obeyed even, today? How is it to be obeyed, today?
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Tuesday, November 27, 2007
1 Corinthians 13-15
1 Corinthians 13-15
13Judge for yourselves: is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered? 14Does not even nature itself teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a dishonor to him, 15but if a woman has long hair, it is a glory to her? For her hair is given to her for a covering.
- This verse I don’t quite understand, yet. Samson had long hair, how does this apply here? What about the Nazarite vow which was both for women and men and involved shaving the hair and then growing it out long? Why is the subject of covering not discussed elsewhere, of course it was probably mostly just understood throughout history, so there may have been no need? These questions are not enough to negate this in themselves, we should honestly look at whether or not a woman should wear a covering, and a thorough study of this needs to be done.
13Judge for yourselves: is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered? 14Does not even nature itself teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a dishonor to him, 15but if a woman has long hair, it is a glory to her? For her hair is given to her for a covering.
- This verse I don’t quite understand, yet. Samson had long hair, how does this apply here? What about the Nazarite vow which was both for women and men and involved shaving the hair and then growing it out long? Why is the subject of covering not discussed elsewhere, of course it was probably mostly just understood throughout history, so there may have been no need? These questions are not enough to negate this in themselves, we should honestly look at whether or not a woman should wear a covering, and a thorough study of this needs to be done.
1 Corinthians 11:11,12
1 Corinthians 11:11,12
11However, in the Lord, neither is woman independent of man, nor is man independent of woman. 12For as the woman originates from the man, so also the man has his birth through the woman; and all things originate from God.
Here Paul does not want what he has said to be used as a means to demean women, for that is not God’s design. Women are vital and just as important as men in both dignity and purpose. Yes, in creation God did create woman out man, but also women give birth to mankind and in that since man comes from women. This does not negate God’s design in creation when He made man first and then woman out man, but at the same time, God’s creating man first does not negate the honor due a woman. All things originate from God. The authority given to man is not for abuse, but instead a stewardship to uphold the beauty of a woman and the strength given to a woman is for upholding manhood in men. Any man who would use these verses or others to oppress women or reduce their dignity is in contention with God. In fact, if we do not honor women God will not hear our prayers.
10Therefore the woman ought to have a symbol of authority on her head, because of the angels.
Because this being the glory of man is womanhood and because it is good; women ought to have a symbol of authority on their head.
11However, in the Lord, neither is woman independent of man, nor is man independent of woman. 12For as the woman originates from the man, so also the man has his birth through the woman; and all things originate from God.
Here Paul does not want what he has said to be used as a means to demean women, for that is not God’s design. Women are vital and just as important as men in both dignity and purpose. Yes, in creation God did create woman out man, but also women give birth to mankind and in that since man comes from women. This does not negate God’s design in creation when He made man first and then woman out man, but at the same time, God’s creating man first does not negate the honor due a woman. All things originate from God. The authority given to man is not for abuse, but instead a stewardship to uphold the beauty of a woman and the strength given to a woman is for upholding manhood in men. Any man who would use these verses or others to oppress women or reduce their dignity is in contention with God. In fact, if we do not honor women God will not hear our prayers.
10Therefore the woman ought to have a symbol of authority on her head, because of the angels.
Because this being the glory of man is womanhood and because it is good; women ought to have a symbol of authority on their head.
1 Corinthians 11:8
1 Corinthians 11:8
8For man does not originate from woman, but woman from man; 9for indeed man was not created for the woman's sake, but woman for the man's sake.
This verse relates to the previous statement of man being in the image of God and woman being the glory of man. Man was made first and then woman was made from man, for man. God states that His purpose in making the woman is for her to be "a suitable helper for him". This is womanhood. This order in creation was not a random or purposeless thing nor was the fact that the woman was taken out of man, but it was God’s intention and design. God intended the woman to be the glory of man, when He made her. For one to deny this is to deny the purposes of God and His wisdom and His goodness.
After creating woman God said, "And behold it was very good." God’s design is not oppressive to women but a fulfillment of who they are. It frees women to be who they are. This is also not a statement of placing man superior to a woman, later in this passage Paul fights this kind of thinking. No, man and woman are equal and co-heirs. And both are equally important in the plans of God.
8For man does not originate from woman, but woman from man; 9for indeed man was not created for the woman's sake, but woman for the man's sake.
This verse relates to the previous statement of man being in the image of God and woman being the glory of man. Man was made first and then woman was made from man, for man. God states that His purpose in making the woman is for her to be "a suitable helper for him". This is womanhood. This order in creation was not a random or purposeless thing nor was the fact that the woman was taken out of man, but it was God’s intention and design. God intended the woman to be the glory of man, when He made her. For one to deny this is to deny the purposes of God and His wisdom and His goodness.
After creating woman God said, "And behold it was very good." God’s design is not oppressive to women but a fulfillment of who they are. It frees women to be who they are. This is also not a statement of placing man superior to a woman, later in this passage Paul fights this kind of thinking. No, man and woman are equal and co-heirs. And both are equally important in the plans of God.
1 Corinthians 11:7, "glory of man"
1 Corinthians 11:7
7For a man ought not to have his head covered, since he is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of man.
There is a sense that it is the duty of women to bring glory to men, not in the since as they do to Christ (although in Ephesians it does say to submit to your husband as to the Lord, but even this does not supersede obedience to the Lord), but in the sense of confirming and supporting manhood. In Proverbs 31, it says "Her husband is known in the gates, when he sits among the elders of the land." This whole chapter is about the woman, not the man, and I believe this verse is about her as well. I believe it is saying this woman is the glory of this man. Her role is to bring glory to a man. Men need this from woman. Yet this verse is even deeper than this. In Proverbs 12:4 says, "A wife of noble character is her husband's crown". This is more than just supporting her husband. She is her husband’s glory. She is a man’s crown. The woman blesses other men. She calls them out to be men. She calls out their dignity and honor.
- At this point I am not ready to make a definitive statement about head coverings, although based on these verses and the context it does seem to be cultural. And I can give a good argument for that. But it is scripture and I don’t want to be quick to explain it away without really listening and hearing from the Lord. However, either way, there are some rich truths in these passages and rich insight into the dignity of the roles that God has for both women and men.
I know that saying that woman is the glory of man is a controversial statement in our culture. However, the biblical concept of what these means does not come near our cultural ideas of what that means. We have to be willing to give up our concepts and come to it as it says in Romans 12:1,2 and allow God to show us His heart and the culture of the Kingdom of God.
7For a man ought not to have his head covered, since he is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of man.
There is a sense that it is the duty of women to bring glory to men, not in the since as they do to Christ (although in Ephesians it does say to submit to your husband as to the Lord, but even this does not supersede obedience to the Lord), but in the sense of confirming and supporting manhood. In Proverbs 31, it says "Her husband is known in the gates, when he sits among the elders of the land." This whole chapter is about the woman, not the man, and I believe this verse is about her as well. I believe it is saying this woman is the glory of this man. Her role is to bring glory to a man. Men need this from woman. Yet this verse is even deeper than this. In Proverbs 12:4 says, "A wife of noble character is her husband's crown". This is more than just supporting her husband. She is her husband’s glory. She is a man’s crown. The woman blesses other men. She calls them out to be men. She calls out their dignity and honor.
- At this point I am not ready to make a definitive statement about head coverings, although based on these verses and the context it does seem to be cultural. And I can give a good argument for that. But it is scripture and I don’t want to be quick to explain it away without really listening and hearing from the Lord. However, either way, there are some rich truths in these passages and rich insight into the dignity of the roles that God has for both women and men.
I know that saying that woman is the glory of man is a controversial statement in our culture. However, the biblical concept of what these means does not come near our cultural ideas of what that means. We have to be willing to give up our concepts and come to it as it says in Romans 12:1,2 and allow God to show us His heart and the culture of the Kingdom of God.
1 Corinthians 11:5, hair
1 Corinthians 11:5
for she is one and the same as the woman whose head is , hairshaved. 6For if a woman does not cover her head, let her also have her hair cut off; but if it is disgraceful for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, let her cover her head.
Paul here is equating the lack of a head covering as being the same as being shaved, and if she is to not wear a veil then the woman should then be shaved.
- What about the Nazarite vow which was for both women and men?
for she is one and the same as the woman whose head is , hairshaved. 6For if a woman does not cover her head, let her also have her hair cut off; but if it is disgraceful for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, let her cover her head.
Paul here is equating the lack of a head covering as being the same as being shaved, and if she is to not wear a veil then the woman should then be shaved.
- What about the Nazarite vow which was for both women and men?
1 Corinthians 11:5, covering
1 Corinthians 11:5
5But every woman who has her head uncovered while praying or prophesying disgraces her head,
A woman is called to come under the covering of manhood and to embrace it. A woman is not to take a place of authority.
- Paul is plainly saying that a man who does not wear something on her head disgraces her head. Is this the woman’s own head or is it man, who is the woman’s head, that she is disgracing? Is head covering something that must be done, today?
5But every woman who has her head uncovered while praying or prophesying disgraces her head,
A woman is called to come under the covering of manhood and to embrace it. A woman is not to take a place of authority.
- Paul is plainly saying that a man who does not wear something on her head disgraces her head. Is this the woman’s own head or is it man, who is the woman’s head, that she is disgracing? Is head covering something that must be done, today?
1 Corinthians 11:4
1 Corinthians 11:4
4Every man who has something on his head while praying or prophesying disgraces his head.
A man should take up his authority and not neglect it, for it is from the Lord. God created man first to be a place of authority. It is our stewardship and responsibility to do so. A man must take on the responsibility of leading in the church in the domain God has given him, especially in the home. We are called to act like men and to stand.
- Paul is plainly saying that a man who wears something on his head disgraces his head. Is this man’s own head or is it Christ, who is the man’s head, that he is disgracing? Also is this cultural and symbolic or should this be practiced, today.
4Every man who has something on his head while praying or prophesying disgraces his head.
A man should take up his authority and not neglect it, for it is from the Lord. God created man first to be a place of authority. It is our stewardship and responsibility to do so. A man must take on the responsibility of leading in the church in the domain God has given him, especially in the home. We are called to act like men and to stand.
- Paul is plainly saying that a man who wears something on his head disgraces his head. Is this man’s own head or is it Christ, who is the man’s head, that he is disgracing? Also is this cultural and symbolic or should this be practiced, today.
1 Corinthians 11:3, "head"
1 Corinthians 11:3
3But I want you to understand that Christ is the head of every man, and the man is the head of a woman, and God is the head of Christ.
Paul wants the people of Corinth to come to understand that Christ is the head of man and the head of a woman is the man, this is the essence of what he is writing here. Later, he says this subjection is from the scriptures, a command of God. In, 1 Timothy, Paul shows that this was the intent of God when he made man first and then Eve. This is a principle that governs the relationship of men and women. It is key hear that Christ is said to be the head of man. Man’s headship is a stewardship under Christ and this position is not to be held in a way that demeans the women. Ephesians 5 (although it is talking about a husband and wife, I believe it fits here as well) shows that it must be as the example of Christ with the church. It must be remembered that women are Christ’s and we are only steward’s to show God’s grace, providing a covering for the women to honor them and build them up in the Lord.
Also notice that in this verse it says, "God is the head of Christ" and this is true. But Jesus is no less God and yet he subjects himself. The woman is not lesser than man in importance or purpose, but as God the Father, the Holy Spirit, and Jesus have different roles and yet are all fully God, so does a man and a woman have different roles, yet one is not superior over the other.
3But I want you to understand that Christ is the head of every man, and the man is the head of a woman, and God is the head of Christ.
Paul wants the people of Corinth to come to understand that Christ is the head of man and the head of a woman is the man, this is the essence of what he is writing here. Later, he says this subjection is from the scriptures, a command of God. In, 1 Timothy, Paul shows that this was the intent of God when he made man first and then Eve. This is a principle that governs the relationship of men and women. It is key hear that Christ is said to be the head of man. Man’s headship is a stewardship under Christ and this position is not to be held in a way that demeans the women. Ephesians 5 (although it is talking about a husband and wife, I believe it fits here as well) shows that it must be as the example of Christ with the church. It must be remembered that women are Christ’s and we are only steward’s to show God’s grace, providing a covering for the women to honor them and build them up in the Lord.
Also notice that in this verse it says, "God is the head of Christ" and this is true. But Jesus is no less God and yet he subjects himself. The woman is not lesser than man in importance or purpose, but as God the Father, the Holy Spirit, and Jesus have different roles and yet are all fully God, so does a man and a woman have different roles, yet one is not superior over the other.
1 Corinthians 11:1-18
1 Corinthians 11:1-18
1Be imitators of me, just as I also am of Christ. 2Now I praise you because you remember me in everything and hold firmly to the traditions, just as I delivered them to you. 3But I want you to understand that Christ is the head of every man, and the man is the head of a woman, and God is the head of Christ. 4Every man who has something on his head while praying or prophesying disgraces his head. 5But every woman who has her head uncovered while praying or prophesying disgraces her head, for she is one and the same as the woman whose head is shaved. 6For if a woman does not cover her head, let her also have her hair cut off; but if it is disgraceful for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, let her cover her head. 7For a man ought not to have his head covered, since he is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of man. 8For man does not originate from woman, but woman from man; 9for indeed man was not created for the woman’s sake, but woman for the man’s sake. 10Therefore the woman ought to have a symbol of authority on her head, because of the angels. 11However, in the Lord, neither is woman independent of man, nor is man independent of woman. 12For as the woman originates from the man, so also the man has his birth through the woman; and all things originate from God. 13Judge for yourselves: is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered? 14Does not even nature itself teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a dishonor to him, 15but if a woman has long hair, it is a glory to her? For her hair is given to her for a covering. 16But if one is inclined to be contentious, we have no other practice, nor have the churches of God. 17But in giving this instruction, I do not praise you, because you come together not for the better but for the worse. 18For, in the first place, when you come together as a church, I hear that divisions exist among you; and in part I believe it.
1Be imitators of me, just as I also am of Christ. 2Now I praise you because you remember me in everything and hold firmly to the traditions, just as I delivered them to you. 3But I want you to understand that Christ is the head of every man, and the man is the head of a woman, and God is the head of Christ. 4Every man who has something on his head while praying or prophesying disgraces his head. 5But every woman who has her head uncovered while praying or prophesying disgraces her head, for she is one and the same as the woman whose head is shaved. 6For if a woman does not cover her head, let her also have her hair cut off; but if it is disgraceful for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, let her cover her head. 7For a man ought not to have his head covered, since he is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of man. 8For man does not originate from woman, but woman from man; 9for indeed man was not created for the woman’s sake, but woman for the man’s sake. 10Therefore the woman ought to have a symbol of authority on her head, because of the angels. 11However, in the Lord, neither is woman independent of man, nor is man independent of woman. 12For as the woman originates from the man, so also the man has his birth through the woman; and all things originate from God. 13Judge for yourselves: is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered? 14Does not even nature itself teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a dishonor to him, 15but if a woman has long hair, it is a glory to her? For her hair is given to her for a covering. 16But if one is inclined to be contentious, we have no other practice, nor have the churches of God. 17But in giving this instruction, I do not praise you, because you come together not for the better but for the worse. 18For, in the first place, when you come together as a church, I hear that divisions exist among you; and in part I believe it.
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